Traveller-digest    Saturday, September 25 1999    Volume 1999 : Number 1125



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The following topics are covered in this digest:

Re: One question answered, another asked...
Re: Classic Traveller Starship Economics Worksheet (Re: Merchant  Ship Question)
RE: software data formats
Re: Campaign Census
Re: Another reason for PCs on the fuzzy side of the law...
Re: Religion
Website back up
Traveller Player Roster ( was RE: Census time: the Active Campaign Census)
RE: software data formats
Re Taxation
Re: Traveller Player Roster ( was RE: Census time: the Active Campaign Census)
Re: Traveller Player Roster ( was RE: Census time: the Active Campaign Census)
RE: Limit of planetary authority 
Re: Traveller Player Roster
Re: Traveller Player Roster ( was RE: Census time: the Active  Campaign Census)
Re: An unfinished little Scout ship for GT (long)
Re: Traveller Player Roster
re:Planet Sterilisation
Re: An unfinished little Scout ship for GT (long)
Re: Traveller Player Roster ( was RE: Census time: the Active Campaign Census)
Re: Traveller Player Roster ( was RE: Census time: the Active Campaign Census)
Re: Non-Solomani Religions
Palm was RE: Deckplans, lost messages and T5
Re:[BITS] Official answer on TLWH question
Re: Religion

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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 21:54:58 -0300
From: Michel Vaillancourt <misha@empire.atlantic-online.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: One question answered, another asked...

At 01:41 PM 24/09/1999 -0500, you wrote:
>
>I'm in agreement.  I've got a 500000-ton High Guard design for a fleet
>tanker based on the TF-15 from MegaTraveller (J3/1G).  If excess fuel
>(for distribution, not the ship and one jump-3) is converted to cargo
>space, it has a payload fraction of 52.3% plus five 100-ton shuttles
>and five 1000-ton lighters.  Increasing the ship to jump-4 (10% more 
>ship fuel, 1% more jump drive, 1% more power plant, plus support) brings 
>us down near 40% cargo payload.  Cost of the jump-3 version is around
>GCr 140 in bulk; I'd expect a jump-4 version to cost more like GCr 170
>after the discount, under High Guard.  Don't know what the GURPS version
>would look like.
>

        I did up an HG design for the _Andrew Young_ that folks were using
as a discussion ship some time ago.

        Diplomat-Class Battlion Transport and Support Ship
        Q73310F4-009909-50099           MCr45077.01             91 ktons
TL F          Crew 639
        Passengers=0. Cargo=3000. Fuel=36400. EP=9100. Agility=2. Troops=4551
        Batteries are 1 CPAWs, 12 Repulsor Bays, 12 Meson Bays, 12 Missile
Bays and 162 pulse laser groups

        3 full MiB brigades.  1 deployed by drop capsule, other two land
using 20 Bulldog class LC's in two waves//  5 scoop ships carried for
frontier refueling;  can supply vessel with power-plant requirements in two
round-trips of group.  Full tankage is 40 round-trips of entire group.  LC's
and Scoop-ships are 250dton each.  Cargo capacity is for troop equipment
loads as guesstimated by myself in an earlier post.

        This works out, for a self-contained invasion ship, to be ~20dtons
per man carried.  The design is quite capable of kicking the snot out of an
SDB squadron by itself. However, for any serious invasion, she'd need full
Naval support getting to orbit.  I'd say three times her tonnage in
optimized combat ships, which effectively means ~60dtons per carried man.

        --Michel


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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 22:29:48 -0300
From: Michel Vaillancourt <misha@empire.atlantic-online.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: Classic Traveller Starship Economics Worksheet (Re: Merchant  Ship Question)

At 09:23 PM 24/09/1999 -0300, you wrote:
>CLASSIC TRAVELLER STARSHIP ECONOMICS WORKSHEET
        [snip]
>Operating	
>	Fuel:	(Tons Fuel x2 x Cr500; Cr0 if scoops & purifiers)
>				Cr__________ /month
>	Salaries:		                Cr__________ /month
>	Life Support Costs:  (Total Crew + Passengers * 2)
>				Cr__________ /month
>	Anunual Overhaul:   (Total Cost MCr * .02 * 1000000 / 12)
>				Cr__________ /month

        Statement of the obvious - formual for Annual Overhaul is broken...
I copied it wrong.  It should read:

                                         (Total Cost MCr * .001 * 1000000 / 12)

        --Michel

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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 21:28:01 -0400
From: "Paul Schirf" <Paul@Schirf.com>
Subject: RE: software data formats

>> The INI format is a simple ASCII text file, and is
>> not going to be a problem for non-MS operating
>> systems.  There are a small set of "format" rules,
>> which could be described in a few paragraphs.

> The original INI format is ASCII and would be familiar 
> to users of and parseable by Linux, OS/2, Mac, DOS or 
> virtually any other OS. However, you *don't* want to 
> compile it into a binary format as that would quickly 
> make it non-crossplatform.

There is no way to "compile" an INI file into a binary
format; They are ASCII text - period.  You may be
confusing them with the migration from INI files to
the Windows Registry, which can hold non-textual data
elements.

> OTOH, XML *is* a standard format that everyone from 
> MS to the OSF is supporting for describing data. 

I was working with Michel Vaillancourt on creating
an new format for the data used by his Window programs.
After some consideration and review of the Microsoft 
XML 1.0 library (msxml.dll), I believe that I may be 
able to make his program's file I/O object support
XML at some point very soon.

Paul Schirf
Paul@Schirf.com

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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 01:56:58 +0100
From: "Peter  Scarrott" <peter@myhelliconia.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Campaign Census

 My location        : Leicester, England
 Campaign milieu    : TNE
 Campaign ruleset   : TNE
 Campaign health    : good
 Group has met since: 1997 Playing Trav, playing RPG's since 1994)
 Frequency          : 10/year
 Number of players  : 6
 Number of referees : 1
 E-mail contact     : peter@myhelliconia.freeserve.co.uk
 Campaign notes     :  end of 1201, starting to explore the Wilds and
paranoid as hell.

 Peter
http://www.myhelliconia.freeserve.co.uk
peter@myhelliconia.freeserve.co.uk

IMTU: tc+ tm tn++ ru+ !3i+ c+ jt- au- ls ta- hi++ ith++ va+ as- so  zh+ vi-
      And life is harsh and rarely fair.

 I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the
shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser
gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to
die."

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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 22:08:20 EDT
From: Sethkimmel@aol.com
Subject: Re: Another reason for PCs on the fuzzy side of the law...

In a message dated 9/24/99 7:41:17 PM !!!First Boot!!!, eclipse@ultranet.com 
writes:

<< to keep moving.
 
 In Traveller, you can move faster than the news if you try hard enough.
 
 http://www.newscientist.com/ns/19990925/caughtonca.html

It's appalling and horrifying. The sad thing is this side of the pond will 
probably be in the same boat in 10-20 years....Franklin was right...:-( . At 
least in Traveller one can leave such a law level 9 fascist state...(no 
flames; my country is getting just as bad...)

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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 22:11:21 EDT
From: Sethkimmel@aol.com
Subject: Re: Religion

In a message dated 9/24/99 8:16:26 PM !!!First Boot!!!, ian@vax2.concordia.ca 
writes:

<< I was rather thinking 
    of Jews who still think that Jesus was a prophet >>

I'm Jewish (Conservative) and this one is new to me. Please clarify. I view 
Jesus Ben (son of) Joseph as an historical figure in the secular sense.

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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 22:50:51 -0600
From: "David J. Golden" <goldendj@pcisys.net>
Subject: Website back up

Website is back up, for a few days at least ...

- -- When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains,
   _however improbable_, must be the truth.
   --Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 99 22:09:29 -0500
From: "Eris Reddoch" <eris@pcola.gulf.net>
Subject: Traveller Player Roster ( was RE: Census time: the Active Campaign Census)

On 09/24/99 at 04:42 PM,  Steven Spiroff <sspiroff@yahoo.com> said:

>> Campaign notes     : Well if you know anyone in the area that wants to play
>>                      then give me a holler, OK?

It occurs to me that it would also be a good thing to compile a
roster (name and location) of our fellow TML Travellers.  I'll start
it off...

Eris Reddoch, Pensacola, Florida, USA


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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 99 22:15:48 -0500
From: "Eris Reddoch" <eris@pcola.gulf.net>
Subject: RE: software data formats

On 09/24/99 at 09:28 PM,  "Paul Schirf" <Paul@Schirf.com> said:

>>> The INI format is a simple ASCII text file, and is
>>> not going to be a problem for non-MS operating
>>> systems.  There are a small set of "format" rules,
>>> which could be described in a few paragraphs.

>> The original INI format is ASCII and would be familiar 
>> to users of and parseable by Linux, OS/2, Mac, DOS or 
>> virtually any other OS. However, you *don't* want to 
>> compile it into a binary format as that would quickly 
>> make it non-crossplatform.

>There is no way to "compile" an INI file into a binary
>format; They are ASCII text - period.  You may be
>confusing them with the migration from INI files to
>the Windows Registry, which can hold non-textual data
>elements.

Not a confusion Paul.  I've seen a compiler that converts INI format
files to something resembling the Registry, and hence only readable
with a specialized viewer program.  I just wanted to point out that
that's a direction I wouldn't want a *commom* format to go.  There
are still many of us that either don't use, or at least limit our
use of, Win32.

Eris
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 23:21:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: "William F. Hostman" <aramis@gci.net>
Subject: Re Taxation

>>	Navy and Marines: Cr500 per sophont per year assessed to the
>>planetary government, to be raised by any means. Cr 100 to the Imp Navy,
>>Cr100 to the Imp Mar Corp, Cr 100 to the Sector Navy, Cr 100 to the
>>Subsector Navy, Cr75 to the scouts, Cr25 to adminitration and overhead.
>
>That's a rather large chunk of the planetary production (13% if average
>GWP is assumed to be Cr10,000/citizen) sliced off for the Imperium before
>the planet's own needs are addressed. A heavy burden. It also makes for a
>humongous Imperial army and navy (and the scouts and marines won't be so
>very small either). The Imperium IYTU appears to be a much larger factor
>in everyday life than that of the OTU.

Actually, I assumed something more akin to KCr20-26 per annum, but yes, a
heavy burden... most worlds will draw it, however, from combined corporate
and other sources. Also, Imperial Army units have a major advantage
economically - they generally trickle right back to the planetary
economy... Since, IMTU, the "Imperial Army" is the MT/COACC style
"Headquarters" units, with no actual imperial troops, but simply combined
staffs for the local worlds armies. Also, the GWP I suspect will average
out to some KCr30-50 on most worlds... forget how I originally figured
that, but I based it upon skilled labor making Cr1200 to Cr2000 per month.
Figure unskilled labor to be some Cr500-700 per month (support SS 2 or 3).
Basically, at Cr250*Soc, soc 7 being average, upkeep of soc means the
average is Cr1750 per month... (See MT Players Manual, p30) SO average
income of skilled labor (Typical for soc 7 is, IMTU, experienced skilled
labor or inexperienced academic/education derived fields). And since take
home pay is usually around 1/3 to one half GDP per capita (IIRC), the tax
burden as a share of GPP is not too bad... about 4-5% of the GDP for
non-rich non-poor worlds. and most of that (3% GPP) is being spent on local
forces!

Lessee here... KCr40 per annum GPP Army: KCr1.2, Imperial Forces: KCr0.5
So, KCr1.7 per annum per person on expenses of KCr40 GPP... about 5%...

Economics are one of the areas most affected by the different versions base
assumptions... MT with it's soc costs is VERY different from all other
editions in that respect... Average incomes MUST be higher than the CT
KCr10 per year... besides it should be KCr13 per year for skilled laborers
based upon ship pay... and retirement pay is often going to be much less
than annual pay...

Also, IMTU, the important part of a Noble's Fief is the stock holdings...a
sector duke needs draw very little from his subjects to fund a lavish
lifestyle... he gets trickle-up from almost every interplanetary endeavor,
and sector wide lines he gets 4% of the profits... And typically, most
nobles will answer directly to the subsecotr duke, so, they get 0.1-0.4% of
the subsector's profits. THen again (as Hans probably remembers) IMTU,
nobles have significant duties and priveledges... like imperial guarantees
of Trial by Jury, and at least 1/2 that jury being nobility (often locals,
tho)..

William F. Hostman  |  "Smith & Wesson: THe original Point and Click
interface!"
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533
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 23:32:43 -0400
From: "Jory Earl" <j-man@iname.com>
Subject: Re: Traveller Player Roster ( was RE: Census time: the Active Campaign Census)

Jory Earl, Manchester - New Hampshire


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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 20:28:15 -0700
From: "Benyamene' ZeAbe' Akella" <xrp@sierratel.com>
Subject: Re: Traveller Player Roster ( was RE: Census time: the Active Campaign Census)

> It occurs to me that it would also be a good thing to compile a
> roster (name and location) of our fellow TML Travellers.
Great idea...

Benyamene' Ze'Abe Akella, Mariposa CA, USA

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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 23:40:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: "William F. Hostman" <aramis@gci.net>
Subject: RE: Limit of planetary authority 

According to MT/COACC, the Air forces/interface forces have jurisdiction to
10 diameters, and everything in the air except that which directly supports
naval or ground actions. They are part of the "Striker" 3% (as are wet
naval forces).

William F. Hostman  |  "Smith & Wesson: THe original Point and Click
interface!"
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 23:32:56 -0500
From: Black ICE <wombat@premier.net>
Subject: Re: Traveller Player Roster

Eris Reddoch wrote:
> 
<<snip>>
> 
> It occurs to me that it would also be a good thing to compile a
> roster (name and location) of our fellow TML Travellers.  I'll start
> it off...

Janet!  Dr. Scott!  Janet!  Brad!  Rocky!  Unnh!

Ahem...

John Groth, Baton Rouge, LA, USA

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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 00:37:40 -0400
From: "Keven R. Pittsinger" <jamstar@accesstoledo.com>
Subject: Re: Traveller Player Roster ( was RE: Census time: the Active  Campaign Census)

> On 09/24/99 at 04:42 PM,  Steven Spiroff <sspiroff@yahoo.com> said:
> 
> >> Campaign notes     : Well if you know anyone in the area that wants to play
> >>                      then give me a holler, OK?
> 
> It occurs to me that it would also be a good thing to compile a
> roster (name and location) of our fellow TML Travellers.  I'll start
> it off...
> 
> Eris Reddoch, Pensacola, Florida, USA

Keven R. Pittsinger, Toledo, Ohio, USA

Keven

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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 23:34:23 -0700
From: Evyn MacDude <wmacdude@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: An unfinished little Scout ship for GT (long)

Phil Kitching wrote:

> At 16:38 23/09/1999 -0500, "Joseph R. Dietrich" <yikes@evansville.net> wrote:
> >Since I have so little time nowadays due to Real Life (tm), I'll never get
> >this finished. So I thought I would post what I had -- maybe someone else
> >can pick up. :-)
>
> <snip>
>
> >... Paint job comes in
> >battleship grey, destroyer grey, or aircraft carrier grey (buyer's choice).

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
All of these are the same.... 2256 is the paint stock number.
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Wish I was a better person...   with more control...
Turn the other cheek...   and when the punch comes, roll...
Wish I was a kinder person...   could see the others pain...
Not over react, not judge...   and shrug off the spreadin' stain.
Damaged, by John Shirley/Donald Roeser, BOC, Heaven Forbid 1998.

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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 19:16:26 +1200
From: "Andrew Moffatt-Vallance" <a.vallance@netaccess.co.nz>
Subject: Re: Traveller Player Roster

From:           	"Eris Reddoch" <eris@pcola.gulf.net>
Date sent:      	Fri, 24 Sep 99 22:09:29 -0500

 
> It occurs to me that it would also be a good thing to compile a
> roster (name and location) of our fellow TML Travellers.

Andrew Moffatt-Vallance, Christchurch, New Zealand (Currently not
either in or running a game, but plans are afoot)


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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 10:08:45 +0100
From: John Buston <John.Buston@tesco.net>
Subject: re:Planet Sterilisation

>The BBC has posted a story on how star systems with large
>gas giants near the system primary may suffer from
>"superflares" which can sterilise a planet (darn those Darrians!).

>The story is at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/

This is also in this weeks New Scientist. In fact there is quite a bit of space
science in it this week (detecting earth sized planets, space healing,
spacecraft repair droids, formation flying spacecraft for cheap long baseline
observatories[article], GRBs[article], solar sail observatory). Most are only
snippets, but an interesting read.

www.newscientist.co.uk

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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 04:12:38 -0500
From: "Joseph R. Dietrich" <yikes@evansville.net>
Subject: Re: An unfinished little Scout ship for GT (long)

> > >battleship grey, destroyer grey, or aircraft carrier grey (buyer's
choice).
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> All of these are the same.... 2256 is the paint stock number.

Yes, thus the attempted joke. :-/

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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 08:57:39 -0300
From: Michel Vaillancourt <misha@empire.atlantic-online.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: Traveller Player Roster ( was RE: Census time: the Active Campaign Census)

At 10:09 PM 24/09/1999 -0500, you wrote:
>On 09/24/99 at 04:42 PM,  Steven Spiroff <sspiroff@yahoo.com> said:
>
>>> Campaign notes     : Well if you know anyone in the area that wants to play
>>>                      then give me a holler, OK?
>
>It occurs to me that it would also be a good thing to compile a
>roster (name and location) of our fellow TML Travellers.  I'll start
>it off...
>
>Eris Reddoch, Pensacola, Florida, USA
Michel Vaillancourt, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada (eh!)
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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 08:32:03 EDT
From: JLAROSEE@aol.com
Subject: Re: Traveller Player Roster ( was RE: Census time: the Active Campaign Census)

Jay LaRosee...O'Fallon', Illinois

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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 10:37:41 +0100
From: SD Mooney <dom@cybergoths.u-net.com>
Subject: Re: Non-Solomani Religions

 Timothy.Collinson@solent.ac.uk writes:
>I must confess that the one thing the book is lacking is an index of
>religions by culture.  Is there enough interest out there for me to compile
>such an index?  I could try and get it done this weekend.  (Dom you haven't
>already done this have you?)

Nope. The chapters broadly correspond to the URP types, but there is no
list by race or by culture that I am aware of. If you produce such a list I
will happily put it up at BITS.

Note: we cannot use the URP for the usual DGP copyright issues...

Dom

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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 10:42:38 +0100
From: SD Mooney <dom@cybergoths.u-net.com>
Subject: Palm was RE: Deckplans, lost messages and T5

Timothy.Collinson@solent.ac.uk writes:

>Someone, I've lost track of who, wrote:
>
>>>I've never paid much attention to the little pocket organizers.
>>>Have they gone past the toy stage to actually become useful for
>>>getting anything done?
>
>I was very unconvinced but have found it extremely useful.  I've even now
>read and reviewed an e-book on my Palm IIIx.  Given how much I dislike
>reading 'on screen' this was a breakthrough for me.
>
>I can now much more usefully utilize commuting time - particularly with the
>additon of a 'GoType' keyboard which makes it very easy to type text into
>the beast.  I think they may finally have 'arrived'.

One question - is anyone aware of a text editor/memo pad on the palm which
has a larger limit than the unit which ships with it? I find the current
limit hard to use for scenario writing. "Delta 3 is Down", one of the BITS
tournaments for GenCon UK 99 was drafted on my Palm.

>>>Palm OS organisers run using 68000's (IIRC) with a starting 2Mb RAM now
>>>(mine has 1Mb).
>
>Actually the IIIx comes with 4meg on board (useful if you store lots of
>text like me - an entire Bible takes about half that).  I've just seen on
>www.ugeek.com an 8meg expansion for $100.

There is a IIIe at 2Mb IIRC?

>Definitely not.  (but would someone please tell my wife that!)

Fortunately, my wife uses a Psion 3a so appreciates the PalmPilot.

>OB Trav:  I have converted my bibliography into a document I can refer to
>on the move (not pretty but the info is there) and I will probably start on
>volume 3 (magazine articles) on the machine.  Also the dice rolling
>programs available are brilliant for creating worlds, characters and so
>forth *quietly* in a Library.

I'm looking forward to seeing the new version of the bibliography.

Dom

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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 10:46:13 +0100
From: SD Mooney <dom@cybergoths.u-net.com>
Subject: Re:[BITS] Official answer on TLWH question

John Buston <John.Buston@tesco.net> writes:

>>>Without giving anything away, are the two extra adventures in the IG
>>>version of The Long Way Home worth having?
>
>Dom (BITS Webmaster) wrote:
>>In answer to John's query, the two add-in scenarios were (hopefully) fun
>>extra material rather than just being space-fillers!
>
>Thanks. It's always nice to have a totally impartial and unbiased opinion ;-)

Well... *I* haven't seen them because buying IGs versions of LWH and
Gateway was low priority as I owned the BITS version. The above was Andy's
response...

Anyway, if all goes well you'll see them by Christmas.

Dom

- ----------Dom Mooney---dom@cybergoths.u-net.com------------
                       MiB - Marines in Battledress
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 22:04:31 -0000
From: "Chris Seamans" <semo@pil.net>
Subject: Re: Religion

- -----Original Message-----
From: Ian Ferguson <ian@vax2.concordia.ca>
To: traveller@mpgn.com <traveller@mpgn.com>
Date: Friday, September 24, 1999 8:17 PM
Subject: RE: Religion


>>Perhaps in the face of a whole galaxy to 'convert'  (though I found
>>Leonard's remarks about the possibilities fascinating), various branches
>>would actually come together.
>
> That is certainly a possibility, but religious institutions
> (especially big ones) are run by people in privileged
> positions, which they are unlikely to give up in the name
> of unity.  I could see some amalgamation, but IMHO the
> general trend would continue to be branching and
> diversifying, augmented by interstellar distances.


I don't think it would be far from the realm of possibility. Your view is
somewhat cynical, but it would be equally cynical to say that world
religions might band together not simply out of necessity, but out of
profit, influence, privilege or whatever other motive you'd like to saddle
them with.

A Tartuffesque religious leader may enjoy the secular influence and power he
has as a result of his station on Earth. However, he may be tempted to weigh
being the king of the hill on Earth against being a partner among the stars.

Christianity, LIC.

Also, the trip to the stars could make fascinating changes in the existing
balance of power among religions here on Earth. As an example:

In real life, there is a sizable percentage of the African-American
population who practice an offshoot of Islam. This variant bears some
resemblance to Islam, but there is an intermingling of more modern "UFO
cult" style imagery and philosophy as well as strong influences from the
African-American slave tradition and Baptist Christianity.

Such a group may be quick to organize and receptive to the idea of
extraterrestrial colonization. The African-American slave tradition may have
some appeal to minor human races whose own cultural traditions were
marginalized, sidelined or destroyed by the Ziru Sirka. Such a religion
could feasibly spread like wildfire during the Second Imperium.

The American Baptist Church (not to be confused with the Southern Baptists)
has a tradition of missionary work as well as public service. Their
tolerance is nigh unto legendary, and their efforts are surprisingly
effective.

Ach! Don't forget the various religions and orders within religions who have
a tradition of education. The Jesuits are a perfect example, they frequently
go right to the "ruling class" with their fine tradition of excellent
schooling and win over their youth in this fashion. This, combined with
their interest in science as well as their sense of duty to the communities
in which they become involved make them an excellent choice for an order
that would be likely to spread to the stars. The same could also be said
concerning the Quakers.

Just some ideas.

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